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: i7 8700k, running at all core OC of 5Ghz at 1.35V, 26k\
: EVGA GTX 1080 iCX, running at 2100Mhz core OC, 25k\
: 16 GB 16CL 3000 memory. Running XMP profile, 7k\
: MSI z370, 11k CPU cooler
: Coolermaster ma620P, 4k Storage
: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB sata SSD, 4.3k\
: Cooler master MB500, 5k PSU
: Antec 650W semi modular, 4.5k Monitor
: LG 24 inch 144hz panel. 20.5k
25k\(gpu) + 40k\
**(cpu, ram, ssd) + 45k(monitor, case, psu, mb, cooler)= Rs. 1,10,000
*bought from USA during black friday sale.
So my parents had recently bought a new flat and we were thinking of moving there. I always wanted a desktop PC in my room but because of the current room's small size and the fact that I had to share it with my brother I was not able to do that. In the new place, I would have my own room so the dream of building a PC which seemed distant before now was a real possibility and it made me really excited. I had been using an HP omen 2017 with a GTX 1050 for gaming previously but I really wanted to experience 1080p 144hz gaming, especially games like PUBG. So I began my research on the hardware and started making a PC part list.
THE GPU STORY
Meanwhile, a really good friend of mine was on a trip to the USA and told me that he was buying a second-hand GTX 1080 for himself. I seized this opportunity to convince my friend to help me out and arrange another second-hand GTX 1080 for me as well. He finally pulled it through and got me the first piece of my computer. This costed me around 25k as after the conversion charges and all. He got it for $350. Got an iCX model for me and ACX 3.0 model for himself. The pair together looked so cool. Gotta admit, the Americans really keep their tech clean.
Comparing this to the prices in India just reminded me how sweet the deal was. Though checking prices for other PC parts got my josh to a stop. Though it was high again when I got to know that another friend doing his MS from the US was soon going to come to India on vacations. So back to the PC partpicker website we were. and the research took a full swing.
THE CPU STORY
As my primary use of the desktop was gaming (and maybe streaming later), I started with an i5 8600k processor but quickly changed it to R7 2700 as it came with a stock cooler and paste. In an attempt to save money on an already expensive build. I was saving at least 12k on CPU, ram, and motherboard by sourcing them from America. The rates here are pathetic. Soon we got the news that the 9th gen processors would soon be releasing but seeing intel's stocks history, we decided not to wait for them. The 9900K had launched but it was really out of the budget. Watching reviews from the tech Jesus from GamersNexus it was clear that i5 was shitty when it came to streaming and gaming. and an R7 2700 needed around 1.4V to get a 4.2Ghz all core OC stable which could get us within 10 percent of the 8700k. I later decided to change the CPU to the x version of 2700 because of the beefy stock cooler and better binning which i thought would let me reach 4.2 all core OC without a problem with a price increase of just $50 that is around 3.5k. Chose an ASUS x470 motherboard to go along with this as it has a 6 phase VRM which we heard is really important when overclocking an 8 core 16 thread processor like the 2700X. I later read that the OC on 2700x did not improve gaming performance by much as the XFR was doing its thing really well. So, I thought of saving some cash on the motherboard by pairing it with an MSI B450 motherboard. This was also considering the weather conditions in India might not have allowed me to keep my 8 core CPU running OC 4.2 on all cores.Then came the black Friday idea and rates. This brought back the i7 8700k back to the equation again. This was because i was thinking of getting a 144hz panel and higher frame rates were easier on an i7 with a decent OC. Plus I really wanted to experiment with overclocking for fun. The 8700K was also suggested for gaming in many end of the year CPU reviews like LTTs and GamersNexus. The 8700K provided best streamer side fps while shelling out good viewer side performance for realistic encoding bitrates. And I felt I would not really utilize the 8 core 16 threads advantages on my desktop. Set a budget of $650 for the CPU, RAM, and SSD as their sizes were small and my friend could easily get those in his luggage.
the final run: Shifted a lot between the 2700x and the 8700k but went for the 8700k in the end for OC adventure, better gaming, and streaming(streamer side fps) performance, and better resale value. The decision was easier as I was getting it for 25k rather than the 40k price point in India. I got the processor for $340. Linus also had recommended the 8700k when it came to price to performance numbers. The ratio bettered when the black Friday sale rates were applied to them. Saved some money on the ram as well, going with a 16GB 3000mHz kit (got it for $100 on the sale) rather than something more which is essential for Ryzen.
So, finally bought
CPU: i7 8700K $360
RAM: 16GB 3000mHz Ram $100
SSD: 2.5" 860 EVO 500GB SSD $65
total: around 40,000 INR for CPU, RAM, and SSD. (Exchange rate was 73.23, used a FOREX card to place the orders)
BACK TO BASICS: NEHRU PLACE
No Indian build is complete without travel to the hardware paradise known as Nehru place.
: MSI z3700- 11K
Der8auer suggested the MSI z370 board as it is cheap and can overclock decently. Went with this, no fight here.
: Coolermaster ma620P- 4k
a very beefy cooler. A cooler enough to cool down a 5Ghz OC on an i7 8700K without needing to void the warranty on the chip to change the IHS thermal paste. High on LTT forum's tier wise list for CPU coolers. Almost among the best when it comes to price to performance ratio of air coolers in India. Hyper 212 EVO would not have been able to cool 5Ghz OC down.
: Went with an LG 24GM79G 144hz 1080p monitor. -20.5K
The cheapest and most color accurate TN panel with the best contrast ratios and brightness levels.
PSU and CASE
Coolermaster MB500 for case.- 5k
A good budget case with 3 stock RGB fans and dust filters.
Antec 650w PSU- 4.5k Semi modular. Who needs modular? hehe.
This was the thing that was the most exciting and fun aspect of this build. After getting the bios, the drivers and the windows update, we got to work. I will be sharing snips of my trials of various settings that I experimented with and just mention the most stable settings here. The settings that I have it running now with absolutely zero problems. I hope this data helps.
CPU and RAM
stable at 5,000mhz all core boost at 1.35V. LLC level 4 with prime95 stable. Max temps reaching around 85 degrees and max power consumption around 160W. AVX offset off.
Memory OC, unfortunately, didn't work and I didn't wish to spend a ton of time messing with the timings and the sub timings of the RAM as it would not have lead to a noticeable change in gaming performance.
First, I was not trying for small ftts to be stable in prime95 but due to games like PUBG crashing in the middle of matches, I had to increase my voltages to gain the 5Ghz OC that I wanted.
note- the performance measurements are not linear as there were some windows updates with patches that decreased the CPU performance by a bit. The temps were recorded while cinebench was rendering. Used Intel burn test for the first pass and the second pass was the prime95 small ffts test.
I think I was lucky with this chip and I think I can achieve an easy stable 5.1 if I delid it.
MSI afterburner was used.
Final OC was a manual curve modifier with freqs at max voltage reaching 2100 mhz on the core. The power consumption was 220W peak with max temps reaching only a meager 70 degrees in the uniengine heaven bench. power limit was set to 120% and voltage increased to the max. the fans autoed around 55 and the card didn't sound to be that loud.
Achieved a score of 3800 on uniengine ultra default settings.
monitor color settings if anyone is interested. Found it extremely hard to find good color settings on this panel. https://imgur.com/eULWElE
B means brightness, C contrast, G gamma. on the right are the monitor color settings with contrast and brightness set to 100.
Using this system has been really fun. I won my first PUBG solo game on this system. I am really glad that I got to build this system, but there are some learning takeaways and personal suggestions that I would like to share with you guys.
- The difference between 120hz and 144hz is hardly noticeable. So, a R5 2600 would have been enough to be really honest. I am talking about the perceptual difference and not the difference that the FPS numbers show on the screen. Please save some money and go for a cheaper CPU.
- Colors on a TN panel are actually quite disheartening and only go for such a panel if you will mostly play competitive games on your system.
- Do not go for an x series CPU if you want to go with AMD. Overclocking is very simple and you can save money by just investing very little time and energy. I did not believe that when I was buying the components but I sure believe it now.
- Prime95 small ffts stability is not essential. Intel burn test imo is enough for stability testing the CPU. If the intel burn test passes, then most likely you would not encounter any stability issues.
- GTX 2060 is a solid deal for the price. It has comparable performance to the 1080 when OCed with extra features like ray tracing and DLSS.
- SSD is essential and I am doing fine with a 500GB SSD as my only drive. You really do not need a lot of space if you just want to game. If you are editing photos or videos then its another thing. I also mostly play one game (offline story sort) at a time so space is not much of an issue.
- If you have space, do not buy a gaming laptop. Go for a medium budget gaming desktop (maybe mATX or miniITX form factor), buy a second cheap laptop (only if you really need it) with a small processor which would inevitably mean a long battery life and put an SSD on the laptop. You will be sorted.
- Offtopic but- underclock your laptop cpu and gpu using ThrottleStop and Afterburner to increase performance and battery life.
for getting the GPU and for picking up parts and building the system along with me
I would love to answer questions and listen to suggestions. Please feel free to ask as many questions as possible. Also, DM me if anyone needs help with their build or is shy to ask here.
I am a painter, one of those wannabe kind working on convenience store to fund art school fee and other bills. Not a grand beginning for the story, I know, but that’s life.. submitted by
Graduating from school was easy, granted the school standard isn’t that great, climbing up from being nameless artist is not. A slump after slump and I found myself stuck with the same routine of working late night behind counter waiting for the next customer. Filling the downtime with dreams of all kinds of landscape I could have painted during the day. Sadly most of it didn’t came out as good as I imagined in reality, a little bit off color here and there, fuck up with the perspective and other stuff.
So here I am; Staring at another empty canvas a few minutes before going to work, bills loitered on my feet; I don’t even bother to open them. All my attention are focused on the canvas, my supposed masterpiece to pay for all the failed ones.
Money from my parents’ death insurance have all but dried up now, I only had this empty canvas and a few others as the only way to bail out from being homeless. My family home occupied quite a large plot of land, and taxes…
There’s advice from my friend to rent some room to counteract the bills, but the thought of someone else walking inside our house, using my parents bedroom and shits on their toilet is no go for me. My social anxiety really hits at it worst.
Discarding all negative thoughts from my head. I closed my eyes; Clenching it tightly even. Brain worked hard to fill the empty dark space with a majestic landscape. Yet, what I saw is the most lackluster imagination ever.
My workplace, just a normal convenience store with nagging manager behind the counter. His face grimmed as if telling me to swap with him so he can smoke cigarette in the back alley. The only reason I was able to stand his tyranny is because of the higher than average payroll, and as if this jackass knew about it, he would work us twice as hard to take advantage of it.
Sometimes I wonder if that’s the reason why no one applied the job vacancy for another clerk. There’s only three of us working regularly apart from him. Me, James, the day-specialist, and Tom, our one way drive for all customer support. Things are okay between the three of us, our mutual dislike for the manager may be a small grease on our relationship.
James are studying for his night class law school. Already garnering enough money to last until graduation and job hunting. I once asked him why he didn’t just put the pedal on the gas and look for a more comfortable workplace; to which he answer “The moment some miserable sap took that vacancy offer you will not see me near this place again; To be honest, the only reason I’m staying is because of you and Tom. I’m still leaving after graduating though.”
Tom is one of those people seem to be bred for the purpose of customer support. Outgoing, cheerful, not blowing up when the customer asked stupid questions. On his day off he would be climbing mountains or snorkeling some mythical saltwater filled with fishes and coral I have never seen before.
His souvenir for me is always a dozen of landscape photos, which is a gold pile for me. I always found it to be pretty funny, a landscape painter who is afraid of going outside because he can't paint while someone is watching, or worried that someone might be; So he only could sit inside his room, staring at his friend’s photos before magically transferring it into the canvas.
Oh, how the wolf would howl at the moon. Desiring it despite incapable of reaching it.
There’s often times I began to question my life choices, but I no longer have any money to start learning other trades. So here I am, sitting on plastic chair with eyes closed in front of empty canvas hating my boss and contemplating my life.
Nope, this isn’t going to work. Not today at least.
I put the canvas cover back, covering my failure of creating some art worthy of a penny once again. Barely stood up before my hand phone vibrate on my desk. A message from James asking me if I’m available to replace him right now, a few hours before schedule. Apparently he just remembered an important assignment due tomorrow, and that Stalin-reborn-and-worse doesn’t allow him to work on it during downtime.
Sure, why not, I’m not doing anything productive anyway. Might as well get some extra cash.
The day was uneventful. Average number of customer, average number of unclear scolding, average number of extra hours to pay for not-so-average bills.
Tom, being an amazing person that he is. Offered a night out at local bar nearby after we closed the store. Being a poor sob that I am, rarely went out to night entertainment and currently near bankruptcy, almost instantly refuse his good intentions. The keyword is ‘almost’ , as he finished his sentence with two first drinks on his tab. Free alcohol during rough times is as good as water for fishes, and I am a big, thirsty fish right now.
The bar itself is nothing stellar, no young underage kids doing drugs or puking in the corner. Although I have to give A+ for their beverages collection.
So here I am, trying not to abuse Tom’s kindness, ordered a simple drink before he does it for me; No mixes, no fancy name, just your normal convenience store middle-class alcohol I recognized on their shelf.
The bartender gives me a stern look, as if asking what I’m doing there.
“Easy there John, he is with me. Be kind to him.” said Tom from behind me.
The so-called John just grunted and went to grab some glasses for both of us while pointing to a table in the middle of the room.
“What’s the deal with him?” I asked Tom after we sit on our destined table.
“I forgot to tell you, John only serve to old-timer and their friends. Visit a few times and perhaps he will acknowledge you as customer; if not?, better don’t try to come here without me. John is a bit eccentric, but nothing could beat his drinks.”
Now, that’s one weird business practice.
I want to ask more about it, but Tom was already busy answering greetings from fellow customer. So I had to satisfy my curiosity with a good look around the bar. Wondering how good his drinks is to be able to maintain steady flow of customer with low rate of first-timers.
A good bump on the table made me turn my head with the acceleration of Ferrari. John’s face is right in front of me once again with previous stern look, making me wonder if that’s his normal expression. His eyes are locked at me, silently ordered me to stay still on my chair and be nice.
“Thanks John, you are quick as always!” Tom already finished his greetings and nonchalantly tapping John’s shoulder without a care of showdown between us.
“Umm.. I haven’t ordered yet.” My brittle voice slowly raise a question in response of three unknown liquor John brought. Trying my best to avoid the rage of the bartender in front of me.
“Those two are your initiation drink. John will measure your worth and bravery for a fair price of half the usual, which of course, went into my tab. A great deal is it not?” Tom smirked on me, as if he just shared a surefire way to get rich quick on Forex.
I normally would jump at any deal for half the price, being as broke as homeless right now; But still,I am not that desperate enough to just accept suspicious drink for someone who is staring dagger on me, at least if he’s not twice as big as I am and the drink is payed by someone to console me.
The first drink torches my throat, and I can't remember the second one, as well as the rest of the night.
Tom’s laugh and John’s face is all I could remember before everything went fuzzy. although John’s smiling face is somewhat disturbing enough for me to doubt its accuracy. Made me seriously reconsider the value of gap moe.
I woke up the morning after with serious hangover and lack of water in my system; After bumping into all edges on my house furniture, I finally reach the fridge and get a nice cool bottled water to reinvigorate it.
Not too soon after finishing the whole bottle, I heard my phone ringtone from somewhere inside the house. I followed the sound into my bedroom, where the phone just laid itself on the bed.
The screen showed the current call is from Tom, as well as plethora of missed call and message. 13:04 is current time, damn that was one serious hangover.
I raised the phone to my ear and accept the call. Almost missing the ear-hole due to how dizzy I am still.
“Yo Tom, what’s up?”
“Your goddamn ass is up. Where the hell have you been!? “
“Well, maybe I have a hangover? Because last night someone took me to a bar and serve me some weird stuff.”
“Don’t you read my message man!? Barry is dead, they found him laid on top of the counter with store’s money scattered on top of him! The police is looking for you right now because you didn't answer their call!”
“Barry? Barry who?”
“Barry our shitty manager you slowpoke! Our boss is dead and you better call the police station right-”
I couldn’t hear what else Tom had to say, as the phone dropped to the floor as soon as I opened the canvas on the side of my bed.
Someone had moved it here from my study room, and only managed to pull cover over half of it, revealing obvious sign of a painting hidden beneath it.
A monstrous and horrifying painting, the exact same layout as I imagined it before going out to work yesterday, albeit with one addition.
A body, laid atop the counter, with blood dripping from it onto the floor. His eyes look directly to me from inside the painting with the same grim; death grim.
My knees gave out and fell to the floor. My eyes directly in front of a scratch of red paint on bottom corner of the painting. A signature.
My name is Shia.
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